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Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:54 pm
by G3L1946
Good morning,

Information re thread size of stud please, ( 4 5/8” long, 5/16 diameter, engine to frame mounting ). I thought it was 5/8 BSF, wrong. My thread sizing skills are not too sharp I’m afraid! Need some new nuts ( for the stud, that is!)

Thanks,

Steve

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:06 pm
by dave16mct
5/16" cycle thread 26TPI. Most sizes are in the parts lists up until about 1957 or so. After that you only get the part number. You need to get some thread gauges and you can download a chart of thread sizes or get a Zeus book with everything in.
Dave.

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:09 pm
by SPRIDDLER
Presumably for a '55 G3LS.

26 tpi

See spares list page 8 here:

http://archives.jampot.dk/book/Spares_l ... ingles.pdf

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:24 pm
by G3L1946
Hi both,

Sorry, just realised didn’t state machine! Correct, the ‘55 G3LS . I have a thread gauge and the original Zeus book. My skills on the gauge leave much to be desired, that’s how I ended up with 5/8 BSF. My gauge is Metric and BSW only, presumably a gauge to measure cycle thread sizes needed?
Thanks, now have the information required.

Steve

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:42 pm
by Mick D
Hi

The BSW thread gauges will have the relevant pitches for cycle thread, (BSCY), but in general BSCY threads are 26 TPI until around 7/16" when it changes to 20 TPI. The changeover point is not fixed so you need to check rather than assume.

I find this list invaluable for identifying fasteners:

http://archives.jampot.dk/technical/Spe ... ashers.pdf

It's not totally comprehensive and the data is availbla elsewhere, but here it's collated pretty well into one document.

Regards Mick

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm
by G3L1946
Hi Mick,

Thanks for the information, I have opened the link and copied data into my information folder. Very useful. I just wonder why they didn’t stick to one system? Was there a logical ( or maybe illogical) reason why they ( AJS/ Matchless ) didn’t?

Thanks again,

Regards,

Steve

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:11 pm
by Mick D
G3L1946 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm I just wonder why they didn’t stick to one system?
Hi

Essentially they did, pre hybrid AMC bikes use BSCY threads throughout with the exception of threads into aluminium castings, (which tend to be BSF).

Early bikes may include BSW threads but the over riding trend is to BSCY, (CEI).

A set of Whitworth thread gauges and a means of measuring thread diameter will identify all the threads encountered.

Regards Mick

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:35 pm
by G3L1946
Hi Mick,

Interesting, learning something new on each visit!

Thanks,

Regards,

Steve

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:58 pm
by 56G80S
That's a great resource, Mick D. Somewhere in Christian's archives there's a spreadsheet for tis as well which I've found invaluable but I don't have a "clean" copy, it's full of my own notes.

Johnny B

Re: Thread size please

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:28 am
by Mick D
56G80S wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:58 pm That's a great resource, Mick D. Somewhere in Christian's archives there's a spreadsheet for tis as well which I've found invaluable but I don't have a "clean" copy, it's full of my own notes.

Johnny B
Hi Johnny / any other spreadsheet wizard

I downloaded that SS some time ago but couldn't work out how to stop some of the part numbers being converted to dates, any advice?

Regards Mick