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Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:13 pm
by Dave T_LAPSED
Hi there , just a little problem, from time to time my kickstart locks at the top of it's stroke before it engages. It usually frees up after a few heavy prods and a couple of swear words, other times I've rocked it in gear to move the mechanism. My ratchet pinion is a new one, so, will it wear in if that's the problem, will I damage it by forcing it, can I remedy it, and will I get into trouble for swearing at it?
As I say, not a biggie but annoying all the same.Dave.

Re: Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:21 pm
by SPRIDDLER
It's a common problem, Dave, and seems to be a feature, at least in my experience of the Burman B52 'boxes. I've read that it's due to a misalignment between the k/s quadrant and pinion meaning that the quadrant and pinion teeth are point to point at certain times. According to F Neill, filing down the first tooth on the quadrant eases it.
When mine has occasionally done this (a very mechanical and immovably solid jam right at the beginning of the stroke) I free it by pulling in the clutch lever and depressing the k/start as if freeing a stuck clutch after which the k/start operates o.k. Why that should do the trick I can't say as even when the clutch is free the quadrant still needs to engage with the pinion .

Re: Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:36 pm
by Rob Harknett
Had this a few times myself over the years, just do the same as Neville pull in clutch etc. But not hit the lever heavy to free it. I've not let it be of any concern. Considered it habitual.

Re: Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:44 pm
by clive
A number of my burman kick start quadrants have the top half of the first tooth filed off. No jamming.

Re: Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:34 am
by Rob Harknett
I vaguely recall, when my kick starter has stuck at the top, it has usually been when the engine has kicked back. The kick starter thrown up violently then shudders at the top. Perhaps causing the misalignment ?

Re: Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:48 am
by MalcW
Rob Harknett wrote:Had this a few times myself over the years, just do the same as Neville pull in clutch etc. But not hit the lever heavy to free it. I've not let it be of any concern. Considered it habitual.
As we say in the IT world, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

Re: Kickstart jammin'

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:08 pm
by Dave T_LAPSED
Thank you all for your experiences! So it seems it's not a problem more like "character" of the old bikes. I'm relieved that I'm not damaging the mechanism and the next time I have the gearbox end off(long time I hope) I'll be rounding that quadrant tooth! :)

A bientôt, Dave.