G3LS "barn find"

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G3LS "barn find"

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I have access to what appears to be an old G3. From a first look I've found what appears to be the frame number (A?)21408. I've been told it's a 1947 bike....maybe? Can anyone help identify this bike from just the frame number?
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Welcome to the club.
The club's Dating Service should be able to confirm year and model.

See here:

https://www.jampot.com/Dating.asp

According to Bacon's restoration book number 21408 (no prefix) does fall in the 1947/48 range
Frame nos. Bacon c.jpg
However, If it has an 'A' prefix it'll most likely be post '52.
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'A' is the prefix to frame numbers from mid 1953 onwards.

A21408 is 1955 model year.

More info here...

https://dating.jampot.com/

There is a record for A21408 under 'road singles and twins' category.
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There is also a record for 21408 without the prefix
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Thanks for the replies. I think it doesn't have a prefix which would make it 47/48 which confirms what I was told.......by the son-in-law of the deceased owner.
Is a rigid frame but I think maybe has a later engine fitted with magneto behind the cylinder??? We need to get it out from where it's buried amongst all the accumulation of the ex-owners "stuff".
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Frame number 21408
Engine number 6420B
First registered 19/07/1947

Now the question is, engine number 6420B could well be a later engine, is that so?

And the piece of string question is, as a basket case wht might the value be? Sorry I've no pictures but it looks to be all there...ish. I'm guessing only a few hundred quid???
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Ptolemy Wolfson wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:23 am Now the question is, engine number 6420B could well be a later engine, is that so?
Is that the entire engine number from the top l/h side of the c/case where it meets the cylinder? I could put up a photo of how an engine number should look but since you aren't a subscribing club member you wouldn't be able to see it it. (I suppose you weren't able to view the pics of frame number sequences that I posted in an earlier reply).
Since you don't know what to look for and we don't know what it looks like it's pretty pointless (and timewasting) trying to guess its value. Photos and positive identification needed.
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A complete bike in almost any condition is going to at least £750 , as Neville says you will get much more useful information as a member . Its only £26 for digital and £30 for paper copy of magazine
Even a simple basic hand paint job and restoration to running condition is likely to cost over a £1000 ( bearings , rims ,spokes, tyres, chains etc)
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