Refused to start after 10 mile run

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willowbedone
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Refused to start after 10 mile run

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The sun was shining So it's time for IST ride on the g12 .started IST kick ran fine But when I stopped it for a few minutes would not even think about starting .I checked the fuel in the float bowl ( ok ) Removed the plugs could see a spark so check points After a while away it went Thirty miles then home stopped it Yes you guessed would not start again Spark or fuel .Any thoughts would be welcomed
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Re: Refused to start after 10 mile run

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Classic sign of a magneto issue manifesting. Cold it'll be fine when warm it's a bugger. Unlikely to be fuel related as it ran once fired up.
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Re: Refused to start after 10 mile run

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Exactly what my G12 used to do, magneto problem, toss up between a magneto overhaul or a thorspark, I chose the thorspark and never regretted it.
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Re: Refused to start after 10 mile run

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Mollbhan wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:59 pm Exactly what my G12 used to do, magneto problem, toss up between a magneto overhaul or a thorspark, I chose the thorspark and never regretted it.
I had the same symptoms and had my magneto rebuilt (by Tony Cooper). All good since.
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Thorspark wins for me too.
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Re: Refused to start after 10 mile run

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Thanks for all replies Does thorspark work ok with a dynamo
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Re: Refused to start after 10 mile run

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Ought to be OK as the current draw is very low, probably the lowest of the genre. A battery should last well in daylight or with LEDs, even if the dynamo misbehaved.
Just have to find a suitable spot to place for the double-ended HT coil (and decide whether to retain 'let's pretend' HT pick ups and cables off the mag).
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Tony Cooper rebuilt my SR1. All good. It had worked perfectly from when I got the Matchless (mid 1970's) until post 2000. On that basis, when it fails, I won't care.

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willowbedone wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:56 pm Thanks for all replies Does thorspark work ok with a dynamo
Tip top. Very minimal power draw. I went with it due to finances.
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Re: Refused to start after 10 mile run

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The culprit is likely cracked insulation on the magnet's anchor windings.
A good magneto is always to be preferred as it will take you home irrespective of battery / dynamo / alternator problems. It also provides an increasing powerful spark with revs. A refurb gets my vote. The magneto will outlast you.

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