What spark plug

Information relating to the Matchless G3 or AJS Model 16 350cc Heavyweight
willowbedone
Member
Posts: 191
Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:08 pm
Location: east sussex

Re: What spark plug

Post by willowbedone »

Modern petrol and ethanol has an effect on what plug to use .I think it's a matter of try one and see
User avatar
spookefoote1956
Member
Posts: 1841
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 7:32 pm
Location: Wales Innit

Re: What spark plug

Post by spookefoote1956 »

Has anyone tried those three point plugs by champion. Champion N9BYC
plug 3 point.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Hail Joe Lucas ............ Prince of Darkness!
All my bikes are original........ to me!
"Creativity is your intelligence having fun" Albert Einstein
User avatar
dave16mct
Member
Posts: 3239
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 1990 12:00 am
Location: LANCASHIRE UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by dave16mct »

not tried one but it may be a good one to try in my 18CS which has the slot type sparkplug hole. I'm using a Champion N9Y at the moment which I modified to a side firing type. Seems to work OK. Probably a bit soft for the CS but I'm still running it in
Dave
User avatar
Taid
Posts: 710
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:35 pm
Location: Shropshire UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by Taid »

Showing my ignorance .. what's a 'slot type' hole?
___

Now sold ... 1956 AJS 16MS Bitsa .. HSU 414 .. rebuilt/re-registered 1987
User avatar
dave16mct
Member
Posts: 3239
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 1990 12:00 am
Location: LANCASHIRE UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by dave16mct »

Rather than putting the sparkplug right into the combustion chamber it fires through a slot. Makes it harder to start!ImageImage
Dave.
User avatar
Taid
Posts: 710
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:35 pm
Location: Shropshire UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by Taid »

Thanks D.

Never seen that before, but do recall, back in the 60s, reading about an engine which had a separate ignition chamber and the main combustion chamber. As I recall, the small ignition chamber had a rich mixture and the main chamber had a weak one .. can't recall the name but something like 'aerated' comes to mind .. is this slot system something similar?
___

Now sold ... 1956 AJS 16MS Bitsa .. HSU 414 .. rebuilt/re-registered 1987
User avatar
clive
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 1990 12:00 am
Location: LONDON UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by clive »

No the slot rather than full circle for the spark plug is because the inlet (and exhaust?) were increased in the CS models and a full circle would have impacted on the valve seats.
clive
if it ain't broke don't fix
User avatar
spookefoote1956
Member
Posts: 1841
Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 7:32 pm
Location: Wales Innit

Re: What spark plug

Post by spookefoote1956 »

I've ordered one and will report back
Hail Joe Lucas ............ Prince of Darkness!
All my bikes are original........ to me!
"Creativity is your intelligence having fun" Albert Einstein
User avatar
dave16mct
Member
Posts: 3239
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 1990 12:00 am
Location: LANCASHIRE UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by dave16mct »

No that sounds like the Puch 2 stroke split single. I think this slot type combustion chamber design may be because of the valve angles positioning them close together. If you look there doesn't seem enough room for a spark pug to fit. It's a central plug and the earlier angled type would've been to one side. It does start very easily on the rollers!
PS just read Clive's reply, yes the valves are very big!
Dave.
User avatar
Taid
Posts: 710
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:35 pm
Location: Shropshire UK

Re: What spark plug

Post by Taid »

It seems it is now called 'pre-chamber' ignition .. a separate small chamber has the spark plug and when ignited flames pass through small holes into the main combustion chamber, rapidly igniting the fuel mix in there .. Maserati and Honda are playing with it and some F1 engines have it ..

Can't find any reference to what I may have been reading those years ago ..
___

Now sold ... 1956 AJS 16MS Bitsa .. HSU 414 .. rebuilt/re-registered 1987
Locked